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The Frosty Relationship between the US and South Sudan

Posted: December 16, 2014 by PaanLuel Wël in Junub Sudan

Can the U.S. Forge a Relationship with South Sudan

The U.S. ushered the nascent country into independence; now, we’re struggling with diplomacy. What happened?

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U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry speaks with members of the U.S. military working with the United Nations at the United Nations Mission in South Sudan...

South Sudan, the world’s newest country, was created in 2011 with the hope that it would become a prosperous, self-governing nation able to successfully harness its resources after years of conflict.

Unfortunately, that dream has not been realized. In July of last year, President Salva Kiir dismissed his vice president, Riek Machar, and the rest of his cabinet. Violence broke out on Dec. 15, 2013, in what Kiir said was an attempted coup by Machar. Since then, factions supporting the two men have fought for control of the country. The exact figure of people killed is unknown, but is expected to number in the thousands. An estimated 1.8 million people have been displaced from their homes, and humanitarian organizations fear the country may experience a famine next year.

U. S. diplomatic efforts, meanwhile, have been hampered by both President George W. Bush’s gleaming legacy in Africa and criticism of President Barack Obama’s apparent ambivalence toward the region. While Bush’s personal relationship with Kiir eased South Sudan’s birth, Obama’s lack of one has made it difficult for the U.S. to lead the country back to peace – both within itself and with neighboring Sudan.

Sudan spent decades embroiled in civil wars before a vote for South Sudanese independence in January 2011. The first conflict lasted from 1955 until 1972, and the second from 1983 until 2005, ending with the signing of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement between leaders of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army, the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement and the official government of Sudan, which set the stage for the referendum on independence.

Bush was elected while the second Sudanese civil war was underway. He made Africa a priority for his administration, instituting the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) and malaria initiatives, both of which had an enormously positive impact on the continent. But he had a particular interest in the cause of the people in southern Sudan, a largely Christian population being persecuted by the mostly Muslim northern government in the capital of Khartoum during the Second Sudanese Civil War.

While it’s too simplistic to say Sudan was torn apart over religion, the American evangelical community actively lobbied against the atrocities being committed against the Christians in southern Sudan, as did the Congressional Black Caucus, and the administration took notice.

U.S. officials did not advocate for South Sudanese independence as a way to end the war there, concerned that it would encourage other regions on the continent to aim for independence as well. Instead, the U.S. had a “personal investment” in the U.S.-educated leader of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army, John Garang, says Cameron Hudson, former chief of staff to Maj. Gen. Scott Gration, who served as the U.S. special envoy to Sudan from 2009 to 2011. Garang had a vision of a united Sudan despite disagreements with the government in Khartoum.

“I think there was reluctance to support [an independent South Sudan] in the State Department, but they eventually did,” says Andrew Natsios, the U.S. special envoy to Sudan in 2006 and 2007. “Particularly President Bush took the view that the southerners had to make their own decision. Given that 4 million people died, you could make the argument that the marriage is not working. It was the worst civil war in African history.”

Garang meeting Museveni in a remote village before his last departure ...

Garang was killed in a helicopter crash shortly after the peace agreement was signed (though it was deemed an accident, some still say it was an assassination). Kiir, who preferred the idea of fighting for independence rather than negotiating with Khartoum, took his place, a move that led U.S. officials to worry that the newborn peace agreement would collapse.

Bush invested much diplomatic capital with the South Sudanese leaders, meeting numerous times with Kiir in person as well as speaking with him on the phone. A personal bond grew as well; it’s rumored that Kiir’s trademark black cowboy hat was a gift from Bush.

“George Bush also had a personal connection with Salva Kiir because George Bush is an avowed Christian, as is Salva Kiir,” says E.J. Hogendoorn, deputy Africa program director at the nonprofit International Crisis Group. “They saw themselves as a bit of kindred spirits.”

This relationship helped the U.S. wield influence over southern Sudanese leaders during negotiations with Khartoum on parts of the peace agreement yet to be settled, like borders and access to oil.

“One thing that Bush did do is he kept up the personal diplomacy. He would make a lot of phone calls,” says Hudson, who also served as director for African affairs on the staff of the National Security Council from 2005 to 2009 and worked on implementing the Comprehensive Peace Agreement. Kiir “would always get a meeting with Bush. He probably had four Oval Office meetings with the president in the second term, which is a hell of a lot. It’s a hell of a lot for any leader, let alone the leader of not even a country.”

The peace agreement included a six-year timetable to hold a referendum on independence, and Obama entered office while that clock was still ticking. When 98.83 percent of voters opted to create South Sudan, it seemed like a long-standing peace would finally be achieved. But when the U.S. offered advice about managing U.S.-South Sudanese relations, representatives of the newly formed country acted like they didn’t “have to take orders from anybody,” says Princeton Lyman, the special envoy for Sudan and South Sudan from 2011 to 2013.

Obama welcomes Salva Kiir at the Whitehouse...

Obama and Kiir also seemed to lack the bond that the South Sudanese leader had with Bush. Some speculate about whether Obama, who was already facing a backlash about his African heritage from some conservative groups in the U.S., could have fostered a personal relationship with the leader of an African country without drawing questions about favoritism.

Regardless, the distance was evident when Obama met with Kiir on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly in New York in September 2011 to talk about issues dealing with the months-old country, including intelligence suggesting the South Sudanese were actively supporting rebel groups across the border in Sudan. The meeting did not go well.

“President Kiir did something we begged him not to do but he did anyway, which is to straight-faced lie to the president,” Lyman says, noting that “everybody knew” South Sudan was backing the rebels. “What does President Kiir say? ‘Well, Mr. President, maybe you ought to look at the fine-tuning of your satellites if that’s the information you’re getting, because it’s just not true.’

President Salva Kiir wiping his face with no handkerchief during a hard talk on Al Jazeera in Juba, South Sudan(Photo: extracted from youtube)

“Boldfaced lie. And President Obama just ended the meeting. He said, ‘Thank you, that’s the end of that.’”

It was a stark contrast to the seemingly cooperative attitude Kiir had with Bush. Making matters more complicated: While Bush was able to work with Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir, who controls what remains of the original Sudan, Obama cannot because Bashir has since been indicted for genocide by the International Criminal Court, meaning neither the U.S. nor the Europeans can work with him directly to solve conflicts that continue in the Darfur, South Kordofan and Blue Nile areas of Sudan. This also ties the West’s hands on mediating portions of the 2005 Comprehensive Peace Agreement yet to be implemented by Sudan and South Sudan.

Still, Natsios thinks the administration should have acted more swiftly following the outbreak of violence in South Sudan last December. He also says the administration could have acted sooner to prevent the rift between Kiir and Machar.

“I think we could have headed off what happened by robust diplomacy with the president’s involvement, but it wouldn’t have been a week before the incident took place last year,” Natsios says. “It would have to have been in April or May.”

A senior administration official who has worked on Africa issues and spoke on condition of anonymity defended the Obama administration’s work on South Sudan, telling U.S. News the country has been a priority for the president from day one.

National Security Adviser Susan Rice has been particularly vocal on Sudan and South Sudan policy since before the countries split. But Lyman calls her “sympathetic” and “very, very close” with the leadership in South Sudan, and that stance might be complicating matters between the U.S. and Sudan.

“Susan has very strong views vis-à-vis Sudan, given the indictment of leaders for genocide and war crimes, and therefore she is very strong both on condemnation, sanctions and offering the minimum amount of incentives,” Lyman says. “And that makes it difficult for anybody trying to balance this with some clear road map and incentives for Sudan improving relations with the U.S.”

The senior administration official disputes the claim that Rice has cozied up to one side or the other in the South Sudanese conflict.

“Any statement or characterization of Ambassador Rice or of the U.S. government taking sides or exercising some sort of bias in trying to protect one side or the other is inaccurate,” the official says. “We’ve been incredibly tough on both in urging peace and urging the types of bold and real leadership that is going to be required to get past this conflict.”

South Sudan President Kiir Mayardiit chats with Paul Malong, the former governor of Northern Bahr el Ghazal, at Juba airport(Photo: via Radio Tamazuj)

The U.S.-Sudan issue is separate from the infighting between Kiir and Machar. It’s too simple to paint the latter problem as one of Dinka (Kiir’s tribe) versus Nuer (Machar’s tribe), just as it is too simplistic to describe the Sudanese conflict before independence as one of Muslims versus Christians. But while tribal and religious elements certainly have played into both conflicts, there are other issues: The north and south also warred over access to resources in southern Sudan like oil, minerals and fertile agricultural land, and Kiir and Machar are fighting for control of a young country.

Donald Booth, the current U.S. special envoy to Sudan and South Sudan, says the U.S. has not taken a position on how Kiir and Machar should resolve the conflict.

“Ultimately, it’s up to the South Sudanese who are going to be their leaders and how they can achieve peace,” says Booth, who was appointed by Obama in 2013 after the post was vacant for nearly six months.

Booth returned from the region last week and says ongoing negotiations – held in the Ethiopian capital of Addis Ababa and mediated by East Africa’s Intergovernmental Authority on Development – center around the concept of Kiir remaining president of South Sudan and Machar being appointed prime minister. The parties were originally given two weeks to mull over that scenario, but the process has stretched into four.

The head of the U.N. Mission in South Sudan last week urged the parties to return to talks with “a heightened sense of responsibility and openness to compromise.”

“The patience of the international community with both parties is wearing thin,” said Ellen Margrethe Loj, head of the mission. “[L]eaders must inject a new sense of urgency into the peace process in order to reach a comprehensive peace agreement as soon as possible.”

Hogendoorn rejects the possibility that a transitional government could bring real peace to the country.

“What’s happening in Addis Ababa is essentially a discussion about what does a transitional government look like and what positions do the different actors hold,” Hogendoorn says. “That by itself is not enough for a durable peace process. What you need in addition to that is you need to have a frank and open discussion about reform of the [Sudan People’s Liberation Movement].”

Booth says his State Department office has a good relationship with those in the White House working on South Sudan, and the issue is receiving adequate attention from the administration. Johnnie Carson, assistant secretary of state for African affairs from 2009 until 2013, says Obama has been “engaged on key issues related to Africa.”

“I think that people who criticize him with respect to what he did or did not do on Africa are in effect making non-contextual criticism and forgetting about what he inherited as president during those first four years in office,” Carson says, referring to the financial crisis and the U.S. military presence in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Those critics, including members of Congress, argue that Obama is not engaged enough on South Sudan in particular, and that his lack of attention has endangered the future of the newly formed country.

Retiring Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., has traveled to the area and praised Bush’s efforts there, saying the ex-president’s “high-profile” appointment of former Sen. John Danforth, R-Mo., in 2001 as special envoy to Sudan sent a message to the world that he cared about the region.

“If you contrast that with this administration, I think they have done a horrible job,” Wolf says. “They have not appointed a special envoy of such credibility that if he or she were to speak, the world would listen.”

Wolf has advocated for the Obama administration to reach out to the George W. Bush Presidential Center and employ the former presidentand his staff on South Sudan diplomacy, because Bush continues to be popular in Africa.

“But for some reason the administration just didn’t want to do that,” Wolf says. He declined to go into detail regarding his conversations with the center. “And President Bush and the people around the Bush library did not want to look like they were criticizing the Obama administration or second-guessing them, which I think everyone has to respect.”

House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md., also has pushed for more diplomacy, saying in a floor speech last week that the U.S. must “exert our diplomatic arsenal to bring an end to the fighting and restore that promise of the peaceful and hopeful future for South Sudan.”

The administration, however, says it’s important to support the African-led peace process because regional buy-in is key to the success of any peace agreement, as neighboring countries have a direct interest in a stable and prosperous South Sudan. Any action taken at the U.N. also requires support from other African nations.

“We’re working now, in support of [the Intergovernmental Authority on Development], talking about a sanctions resolution in the U.N. that would mirror what we have done bilaterally already,” Booth says, referring to U.S. sanctions implemented in April against South Sudanese individuals via executive order from Obama.

The senior administration official says “nothing has been definitively ruled in or ruled out” regarding possible U.N. action, including an arms embargo. Some have called for a halt to arms sales to stop the regional violence, but such measures can be difficult to enforce and don’t always have the impact desired.

Obama has acknowledged the anniversary of the recent conflict, issuing a statement last week calling for peace. And his less personal approach may be gaining support.

Carson says the U.S. ultimately is right not to take the lead and instead back African-led negotiation efforts.

“We don’t want to own the problems of Sudan and South Sudan because the moment we own them, we are responsible for their success or failure,” Carson says. “The moment we own it, we run the risk of alienating others in the region who have a stake in trying to solve them.”

Teresa Welsh is a foreign affairs reporter at U.S. News & World Report. E-mail her at twelsh@usnews.com and follow her on Twitter.

By Deng D’kuol, Australia

Since the beginning of the ongoing crisis in the RSS, on the 15 Dec 2013, electoral mandate and legitimacy as implied by the principle of majority rules has been used, not only to condemn the so called coup that was alleged to have taken place on the15 of December in Juba (and I agree with this condemnation if coup had indeed taken place, the problem is the government of the RSS couldn’t proof coup), but also to advance bad policies and misdirect the public about what really constitute democracy.

I’m making evaluation of the principle of majority rules and legitimacy of the government based on electoral mandate based on the following arguments:

“This is a legitimate government whose president was democratically elected by 98% by the country’s population,” Dr.Marial Benjamin Bil

“In the meeting of National Liberation Council (NLC), those ones of Dr.Riek want the voting by secret ballots, we want the show of hands so the matter was put to voting and Dr.Riek and his group were defeated democratically; the majority supported the show of hand,” Telar Ring Deng

Yes, there is nothing wrong with these arguments when you consider them in the simplistic mechanic of acquisition of power and its exercise, but if you consider the purpose and the spirit in which these so called “legitimate powers and process” are being exercised; if you conceptualized the overall mechanic and purpose of democratic power the flaws in the argument above become clear.

The simplistic interpretation comes from the definition of majority rules, which is that………a principle by which a numerical majority of an organized group holds the power binding on the rest; there are other definitions including that a greater number should exercise greater power.

This definition can be understood to imply legitimacy to govern, but if one considers the purpose and objective of democratic power it become clear that electoral mandate obtained through a majority votes doesn’t in itself grant legitimacy; legitimacy encompasses something more than this. It encompasses conceptualising the honest use of power for the greater good of all; the legitimacy of a democratic government comes from the fact that it’s a power that is designed to revolve around the governed, and so to be legitimate those in power need to conceptualize the democratic vision of “people’s power”.

Legitimacy of an elected government comes from it continuous commitment to the principle of good governance, and the honest spirit of public services for the greater good of the society/communities; government should just make good of it fundamental existent by protecting it citizens, providing basic social services and economic opportunities; electoral mandate implied by a majority of votes isn’t enough. Actually, the mandate to government is based on the people’s expectations for their government to perform its basic duties, and any government that doesn’t achieve this will have lost it legitimacy.

Electoral mandate as granted by a majority of votes shouldn’t be used to validate legitimacy of incumbent power to govern recklessly, and use power given to him by those he governs abusively: there is nothing legitimate about giving amnesty to 75 thieves, is it? The suggested mandate is meant to govern in the interest of all by advancing particular issues based on merits. The recent attempt by the government of the RSS requiring foreign companies to priorities employment for South Sudanese citizen is such example of merits, but sadly I can’t find any further accolades in favour of Kiir’s government.

Electoral mandate shouldn’t undermine societal moral consciousness, and the moral consciousness is you don’t use democratically obtained power abusively; you can’t use democratic process to validate a non-democratic agenda. For example, voting might have been used as a democratic process to defeat Dr.Riek and his group, but the agenda was to remove a threat of political competition and to give president Kiir unfair advantage over his rivals.

Numbers might have been obtained, for example, to support the idea of voting using the show of hand, but was this process fair? Was the motive sound and proper? Was it fair to identify, openly how people will have voted by the show of hand? What do you think was the objective of allotting the president, to personally handpick, 5% of people who will participate in the election of the chairperson, in which he was one the runners, of the SPLM?…………Give my Arsene Wenger the right to pick the referee to officiate when Gunners are playing their harsh rival, ManUted, and you will see how much noise will be out there, not to say the least, that if you give them 2 goals advantage, (event in their horrible current form) the game will be done and dusted.

If the democratic process detracts from the very goal of democracy, then something is indeed illegitimate about it; good governance is the primary objective of democratic governance, and the principle of majority in itself is not legitimate if it doesn’t facilitate this. When you use power of numbers, in the principle of majority rules, to inappropriately advance bad and oppressive policies then you are, in essence, illegitimate.

For example, does100% voting for the current national security legislation change it oppressive nature, and the spirit in which it’s designed: to target political dissidents? Can you tell me what is legitimate about this legislation????

Hell! I don’t think so.

The whole exercise and process of voting in NLC was just designed to grantee outcome for president Kiir! No secret about this.

The irony here is the principle implied in the idea of majority rules is fairness; that the fairest way to make collective decision in a society is by a simple majority.It’s up to you to reach your own conclusion as to whether the National Liberation Council (NLC) had conducted and constituted its internal affairs, which we know precipitated into the current violence, fairly and justly.

For me, I don’t think so.

There is nothing fairer about deliberately designing electoral process to systematically exclude certain group or faction or to make them less competitive: if this group is ambitious enough, and they knew that they had the opportunity to win through a fair and free election then deliberately stifling this fair process is just a recipe for violence.

This point should not be difficult to understand because the main reason democratic societies are less violence is people are given fair opportunity to voice their concern without repercussions or retribution, whatsoever; civic participations and the opportunity to express oneself give hope that one will use the power of argument to change things one day, remove this and the only viable opportunity to change things become violence, therefore it’s not surprising that dictatorial societies are the one characterized by violence because people have got no opportunity to change things by other peaceful mean except violence.

In effect, what constitute a legitimate government is summarized in the famous quote of an American president, Abraham Lincon, about democratic government, that it’s government of the people, by the people and for the people. The elements in Lincoh’s definition can be understood and broken down as follows:

· Of the people-that the government is constituted by them, by choosing their representatives in election, people then determine how they should be governed; they authorized those who govern to make decision on their behave;

· By the people-mean that those who are authorised to govern will do good by those whom they govern;

· And for the people-mean that those who have been authorized to govern should serve the interest of those whom they governed, and are accountable to them.

The important of this definition is that, while electoral mandate is the initial source of legitimacy to government because of the principles of majority rules,continuously serving the interest of electorates and doing good by them constitute the fundamental sources of legitimacy to govern.

To ensure that those who are elected govern in the interest of their electorate, and do good by them, it is necessary they are held accountable.

It’s important to understand that electoral mandate by majority of votes doesn’t, in itself, grantee that those who govern through that mandate will do good by those whom they govern; it’s unfortunate that majority of us think this is the case.

Mandating president Kiir with 98% of our votes doesn’t mean that he will do good by us,and serve our interest.

History has significant records of instances in which the ballot actually facilitated the rise of dictators, and horribly oppressive leaders: Hitler’s party, initially, rose to power through the vote, not by bullet. The rise of dictators and oppressive leaders through the ballot box is particularly true and easy in sentimentally heterogeneous societies, for example it’s pretty easy for a bad leader (dictator) to meet the criteria of majority rules by appealing to larger tribes in a sentimentally charged and divided society.

To illustrate this point, Slobodan Milosevic rises to power in the former Yugoslavia is such example of extremists using ethnic mobilization to achieve majority rules in order to advance sinisterly damaging political objectives which affect the society at large.

Can you now see why commanding the majority of votes isn’t the best way to determine the so-called legitimate government?

Dictatorship can be legitimized through ballot box; therefore it is necessary to have a politically open and competitive space to provide strong basis for rigorous accountability required to prevent a legitimately elected government from becoming a dictator.

It’s important to appreciate that the punitively damaging effects and oppressive nature of a dictatorship remain fundamentally painful and destructive to the society regardless of whether a dictatorship seize power by ballot or bullet.

In a nutshell, while the principle of majority rules is a source of initial legitimacy of authority to govern, it’s a mere criteria to fairly decide how seats are won and translated into capacity to govern, however, legitimacy is a continuous ability to government with trust from the governed. When those who govern abuse this trust, they lost the fundamental source of legitimacy to govern.

While people election of their representative is a fundamental democratic process of people deciding who should lead them, we should be vigilant that this very important democratic process has, historically, facilitated the rise of dictators, and extremists; political competition should be promoted to prevent the rise of such extremists with absolute power in their disposal which they might use to destroy the society.


Names of those killed in the South Sudanese conflict since December 15th, 2013

Naming the Ones We Lost – South Sudan Conflict (PDF)

Naming the people who have died and ensuring their legacy is an important part of the South Sudanese culture. Yet, during and following all of South Sudan’s conflicts, there has never been a comprehensive and public recognition of the individual loss of human life.

The list you read is the work of a small group of civil society volunteers who have been collecting data to gather together the names of all those who have died in South Sudan since 15th December 2013. Family and friends of those who have died in the conflict have willingly provided the majority of the information through a testimonial form developed for this project. Additional names of victims were collected through news articles, public websites, community lists, social media and human rights reports that named victims of armed conflict across South Sudan. Each name is backed up with additional data, which was collected as a means of verification. Only the NAME, AGE, DATE AND LOCATION OF DEATH are available in the list. All possible efforts were made to ensure that the names are real and that the deaths have been confirmed. Only through receiving information, submitting names or having names in the public domain were the names added to the list.

The List of Names

The following list is published in memory of all those who have died in South Sudan through armed conflict since the 15th December 2013. It is by no means definitive, but it is a start. We hope that the publication of these names will spur collective efforts to name and remember all of those who have died through armed conflict in South Sudan.

The list is not exhaustive and includes 572 names of victim from the start of the conflict on 15th December 2013 to 31st October 2014. It includes men, women, elderly people and children, South Sudanese people of different ethnic groups and people of different nationalities. The oldest victim is a woman of 105 years old and the youngest is a 14-month old baby. The list contains people of different professions – both civilian and military. Those killed are traditional chiefs, doctors, engineers, housewives, pastoralists, nurses, religious leaders, students, farmers, traders, men in uniform, including UN peacekeepers, but the majority of the victims on the list are civilians and young people, demonstrating that South Sudan has lost so much of its human capacity and potential.

The victims on the list were killed in six out of the ten States of South Sudan, namely Central Equatoria (Juba and Jameza); Lakes State (Rumbek Town, Rumbek Central County, Rumbek East County, Malou, Cuibet); Jonglei State (Bor, Akobo, Duk County), Upper Nile State (Akoka, Malakal, Tonga, Owaci, Opel, Doleb, Maban, Wau); Unity State (Bentiu, Rubkona, Leer, Koch); Warrap State (Abyei). Some of the victims were killed along Juba-Yei Road, Juba-Bor Road, Juba-Rumbek Road and Wau-Rumbek Road.

Memorialization

This list, although a fraction of the total loss, reflects the devastating human impact of South Sudan’s year-long war in which no one has been officially counting the dead. Peace remains elusive, mass graves dot the landscape with civilians, both young and old, bearing the brunt of the fighting. At the time of writing, people are continuing to die. Under Article 4.2 of the Cessation of Hostilities Agreement, signed by the two warring parties on 23 January 2014, ‘The parties agree to an enabling environment to facilitate the decent burials of the dead and memorialization, support reunion of families and any such act that promote human dignity.’ We accordingly call on all parties to the conflict and citizens to take all possible measures to identify the dead, maintain detailed records and, as far as is possible, ensure that the dead receive dignified burials such that the information can eventually be made available to their loved ones.

This publication coincides with several national commemorative events taking place on the 15th December 2014. Religious groups, South Sudanese people and their friends around the country and in neighbouring countries are taking a moment to pause and acknowledge the dead, including both those named here and those whose names are not yet publicly known. In Juba, South Sudan, the names are being read aloud by some of the friends and relatives of the dead. The readers represent all of South Sudan’s regions. The names and this statement will also be displayed at many of the commemoration events. In Nairobi, Kenya the same list will be read aloud by family and friends of the dead at an event organized by Amnesty International and several other organisations. These commemorations will speak of the strength and resilience of the affected communities and the lights that have shone in solidarity as South Sudanese people have supported and helped one another during this painful year.

The commemoration in Juba is a small event, dwarfed by the tragic loss of life, but it is a start. As time continues to pass, the list of names will inevitably grow into a true reflection of the colossal loss of life that the people of South Sudan have once again suffered. It is hoped that one day all the dead of South Sudan’s conflicts will be formally and publicly recognized and remembered as part of a national memorial of commemoration.

The volunteers take this opportunity to sincerely thank all those who have so far come forward to give the names of those who have been lost. We invite all South Sudanese citizens and friends of South Sudan to join in this remembering and continue submitting names until all those who have been lost are publicly named.

Those who wish to add their own loved ones to this list may do so by emailing to request a ‘Naming the Ones We Have Lost’ form: namingtheoneslost@gmail.com. We are exploring more ways in which you can submit your names and will publish this information when it becomes available.


PRESS QUERIES:

Ms Anyieth D’Awol, Naming Project Lead: msdawol@hotmail.com

Mr Edmund Yakani, Executive Director of CEPO: ceposouthsudan@gmail.com

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Naming Those We Lost: These are the names collected so far

13th December 2014

No Name DoB/Age Group Date of death Location of Death
1 Aban Abwol Nyibong NA Feb 2014 Malakal
2 Aban Ador 61 Feb 2014 Makal, Malakal
3 Aban Bol Ayang NA Feb 2014 Detang, Malakal
4 Aban Daniel Kir Akaedyeng NA Feb 2014 Malakal
5 Aban Deng Kudit NA Jan 2014 Malakal
6 Aban Jatid Chol 70 Feb 2014 Pekaan Nyilwak, Malakal
7 Aban Ochwong Ongwany NA Feb 2014 Detang, Malakal
8 Aban Oywac Mayom NA Feb 2014 Biew, Upper Nile
9 Aban Yokuan NA Jan 2014 Malakal
10 Abas Ayul Deng NA Feb 2014 Odong Tugo, Malakal
11 Abas Bashir Hammad NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
12 Abd-al-Rahman Hasan Khadir NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
13 Abdalla Obac Nyiker NA Feb 2014 Makal, Malakal
14 Abdallah Dabu Hasim NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
15 Abdullah Adam Saleh NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
16 Abdullah Al Sadig Al Nibeiga NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
17 Abon Ayul Yeljak 37 Mar 2014 Tonga/Atigo, Malakal
18 Aboy Mading Majok 1949 Jan 2014 Payueny, Bor Suburb
19 Abraham Chuol Nyieth Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
20 Abraham Jongroor Deng Adult 5th Jan 2014 Jameiza, 35 km from Bor
21 Achol Ayen Magot Dut 35yrs NA NA
22 Achol Bol elderly Dec 2013 Hai Machour, Bor
23 Achol Pei Machar NA NA Duk County
24 Achongrial Nyawelo Akurkwec NA 2nd Feb 2014 Malakal
25 Acuil Othow Oyath 29 Feb 2014 Makal Village, Malakal
26 Acwil Mayik Abwol 28 Mar 2014 Malakal
27 Acwil Nyago Arop 5 Mar 2014 Owaci, Upper Nile
28 Adut Chol Atem 1939 Jan 2014 Payueny, Bor Suburb
29 Ayak Chol Atem 1942 Jan 2014 Payueny, Bor Suburb
30 Adwol Ayalbek NA 27th Feb 2014 Detang, Malakal
31 Adyeng Along Deng NA 27th Feb 2014 Detang, Malakal
32 Aflina Afo Libno Lilake 35 Dec 2013 Juba
33 Agoding Majwok NA Jan 2014 Malakal
34 Agu Rachid NA Dec 2013 Juba
35 Ajak Galak Yor Ajak 41-45 Dec 2013 Juba
36 Ajak Riak Kwabek 70 Mar 2014 Malakal
37 Ajak Yowin Angaw NA Jan 2014 Malakal
38 Akany Dingbek 75 Mar 2014 Tonga
39 Akec Athian Thuc NA Dec 2013 Malakal
41 Akur Nhial Elderly Dec 2013 Hai Machour, Bor
42 Al Saud Al Sadiq Al Nibeiga NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
43 Albino Olwak Godyeing NA Feb 2014 Malakal
44 Albino Palak Dak NA Dec 2013 Malakal
45 Albino Peter Ajak NA 18th Feb 2014 Malakal
46 Alek Akech Amuom 58 Jan 2014 Bor
47 Ali Al Sadig Al Nibeiga NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
48 Along Okway Chol Ador NA Feb 2014 Malakal
49 Aluel Garang Chawoch 65 Jan 2014 Bor
50 Alwong Okic Bol (Yeljak) NA Jan 2014 Malakal
51 Amol Kur Yor 79 Mar 2014 Nyilwal, Upper Nile
52 Amom Beek NA Jan 2014 Langbar C neighborhood
53 Amor Deng NA Jan 2014 Malou neighborhood
54 Amuc Liebo Amuc 11 Mar 2014 Malakal
55 Amum Nyadeng 75 Feb 2014 Detang, Malakal
56 Amum Tito Tipo Adibo NA Feb 2014 Malakal
57 Angelina Lokuru Longar Lochebe 81-85 Dec 2013 Juba
58 Angelo Othow Nyikang NA 18th Feb 2014 Malakal
59 Apareer Chut Dhuol NA 5th Aug 2014 Rumbek
60 Apier Bulwal Akic NA 18th Feb 2014 Malakal
61 Apolo Pach Agar NA 18th Jan 2014 Mareng, Bor, Jonglei
62 Arok Ajieth Kudior 1936 Jan 2014 Payueny, Bor Suburb
63 Atem Athian Goach Athian 51-55 Dec 2013 Bor
64 Athiang Margaret Wol Makuei 15yrs NA NA
65 Athou Nyantuc Elderly Dec 2013 Hai Machour, Bor
66 Awol Thon Awol Padiet 36-40 Jan 2014 Duk County
67 Ayen Chatim Deng NA NA Duk County
68 Ayen Jok Elderly Dec 2013 Hai Machour, Bor
69 Ayik Gordon Ojyang NA Feb 2014 Obai, Malakal
70 Ayuen Malou NA Jan 2014 Bor
71 Aywok Akolwin Deng 76 Feb 2014 Obai, Malakal
72 Baang Dayem Nanjang Elder Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
73 Bang Maker Malook NA Jun 2014 Lakes
74 Banng Manytai Wuor Child Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
75 Bashir Abbakar NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
76 Bedepiny Otor Marko NA Feb 2014 Malakal
77 Benjamin Dhieu 42 Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
78 Biphal Gatluak Reath Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
79 Bol Awet Awer 78 Feb 2014 Malakal
80 Bol Madit Machok NA NA Duk County
81 Bol Nyago Arop 7 Mar 2014 Owaci, Upper Nile
82 Bol Wol   Mayar Makuei 14 mths NA NA
83 Bolok Joseph Akira Ejoigo 26 Dec 2013 Bor
84 Borogo Odingyi Cicila 20 Jan 2014 Bor
85 Bothalmayo Adyeng Nyikang NA 15th January 2014 Malakal
86 Boum Kang Raan Elder Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
87 Brig. Gen. Maraac Akon Adult 13th Dec 2013 Juba-Yei Road
88 Buk Chol Ruai 36 Dec 2013 Malakal
89 Bwong Paul Owau NA Feb 2014 Malakal
90 Chaben Gatluak Deng 22 Jan 2014 Doleb, Upper Nile
91 Chal Chol Nyakwan 15 Mar 2014 Owaci, Upper Nile
92 Chan Chol Deng Bokor NA Jul 2014 Abyei
93 Chan Niyom Chalto 45 Feb 2014 Malakal
94 Chan Ojwok Mojwok 43 Feb 2014 Makal Village, Malakal
95 Chang Kuoth Nyang 25 Dec 2013 Malakal
96 Changkuoth Puk NA NA NA
97 Charles Mawar NA Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
98 Chol (Oneted) Chol Nyikwae NA Feb 2014 Palo, Malakal
99 Chol Arkoi 25 Jan 2014 Hai Salam, Bor
100 Chol Biliu Nguut NA NA Duk County
101 Chol Garang 30 Jan 2014 Hai Salam, Bor
102 Chol Mok NA Jan 2014 Malou neighborhood
103 Chuol Domai Tai Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
104 Chuol Isaac NA Dec 2013 Thong Piny, Juba
105 Chuol Lar Guandong NA Mar 2014 Malakal
106 Chuol Lurinyang NA Mar 2014 NA
107 Chuol Nyieth Gatwech 38 years Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
108 Cyangjwok (Onyam) Othow Akwang NA Feb 2014 Malakal
109 Dak Ajak Maybek 52 Mar 2014 Tonga/Yom, Malakal
110 Dak Anyang NA Feb 2014 Malakal
111 Dak Biel Toang NA Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
112 Dak Kai Phan Youth Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
113 Dak Mayik Tapen NA Feb 2014 Detang, Malakal
114 Dak Oyot Aguding NA Mar 2014 Malakal
115 Dak Yar Ngu NA Feb 2014 Pakang, Malakal
116 Daniel Giel NA 21st Jan 2014 Malakal
117 Daniel Giel Pal 48 NA Malakal
118 Daniel Lado Kulang Alsendero 20 Jan 2014 Kololo Road, Juba
119 David Achuil Nyok 21 Feb 2014 Malakal
120 David Liep Kuol NA Jan 2014 Tongot, Unity
121 Deng Awol Deng Joak 56-60 Dec 2013 Bor
122 Deng Chol Deng Akoob NA NA Duk County
123 Deng Gany Juc 38yrs NA NA
124 Deng Mading 50 NA Hai Machour, Bor
125 Deng Manyiel Guong 40 Apr 2014 Doleb, Upper Nile
126 Deng manyok Awol Ajing 47 Dec 2013 Malakal
127 Deng marial Atem Anyang 1939 Jan 2014 Payueny, Bor Suburb
128 Deng Marol Deng NA NA Duk County
129 Deng Yol Makuac; NA 13th Sept 2014 Pachong, Rumbek Central
130 Denis Opyenyi Amaylek 69 Mar 2014 Malakal
131 Dharmesh Sangwan 33 19th Dec 2014 Akobo
132 Dhoal Lengleng Dup Youth Dec 2013 Jebel
133 Diu Tungwar Kueigwong NA Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
134 Doi Doyek Kuyi 35 Feb 2014 Malakal
135 Doluony chuol bang 46-50 NA NA
136 Dor Thotlieth Duop Youth 16th Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
137 Dout Deng Dout Chol 36-40 Jan 2014 Duk Payuel
138 Downyang Priaka 41 years 15th Dec 2013 Munuki
139 Duop Danhier NA Dec 2013 Gudele Juba
140 Dur Yoac Gai Badeng 39 years Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
141 Eduard Obur Onwar 35 Feb 2014 Malakal
142 Elia John Onwar 6 Dec 2013 Malakal
143 Eliamana Charles Mako 12 Feb 2014 Hai Game, Juba
144 Ezera Othow NA 41640 Malakal
145 Gabriel Jany Kur Youth Dec 2013 Thong Piny, Juba
146 Gabriel Yien Gach NA Aug 2014 Maban
147 Gai Baret Gai 31 Years Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
148 Gai Belieu Kuol Peoh 39 years Dec 2013 Gumbo, Juba
149 Gai Matong NA Dec 2013 NA
150 Galual Ring Turial Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
151 Gang Majang Bakam Adult Dec 2013 Juba
152 Gano John Onwar 12 Dec 2013 Malakal
153 Gano Joseph Obuti 30 Mar 2014 Malakal
154 Garang Tong Atak (Garang-Awertoch) NA 2/1/2014 Malakal
155 Gat Ninrew NA Jan 2014 Gandor, unity
156 Gatchek Baiyuk NA Jan 2014 Rubkona
157 Gatduel Bangong youth Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
158 Gathleoh Mead Chiek 24 years Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
159 Gatjang Diew Gador Youth Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
160 Gatjang Gai Machar NA March 2014 Gou, Leer
161 Gatjang Gatluak Hothnyang Youth Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
162 Gatjuet Ruai NA Dec 2013 Juba
163 Gatkhor Gatkuoth Youth Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
164 Gatkhor Madit Malual Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
165 Gatkor Bouth NA NA Duk County
166 Gatkuoth Belieu Wanjang 31 years Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
167 Gatkuoth Kai Chiek 40 years Dec 2013 Lologo, Juba
168 Gatkuoth Ruop Ruach 31 years Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
169 Gatluak Bidong Dayom 33yrs NA NA
170 Gatluak Deng Kachuol NA NA Duk County
171 Gatluak Khor 25 NA NA
172 Gatluak Kuon Thiey Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
173 Gatluak Ring Turial Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
174 Gatphai Linylang Puol Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
175 Gatphan Linyluang Poul Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
176 Gatwech Gatduot Kuach Elder Dec 2013 Thong Piny, Juba
177 George Nyawelo Occur NA Feb 2014 Malakal
178 George Simon Oywac Athie 25 Feb 2014 Malakal
179 Ghai Machar Nyakek Kowal 50 NA Akobo
180 Giel Bol Giel NA Jul 2014 Abyei
181 Giel Pal 51-55 NA NA
182 Guat Malual 65 Jan 2014 Kuok, Leer, Unity State
183 Gwang Lual 65 Feb 2014 Pekaan Nyilwak, Malakal
184 Gyenyi Pakwan Dyeing 52 Feb 2014 Malakal
185 Gyeth Joseph Deng Farage 26 Mar 2014 Malakal
186 Harun Muhammad Salih Jamilallah NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
187 Hasan Ibrahim Khamis NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
188 Hoaw Kai Chek 30 years Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
189 Hoaw Thoch Reat 29 years Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
190 Hol Kang NA 13th Sept 2014 Pachong, Rumbek
191 Ibrahim Adam Sabun, NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
192 Idris Jar al-Nabi Hamid NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
193 Isamil Sharif Rashiid NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
194 Issac Tong Kuol 45 NA NA
195 Issam Al Sadig Al Nibeiga NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
196 Jacob Nhial Riey Keat 32 NA NA
197 Jal Tap Malual N/A Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
198 Jalkec Luigi Adwok NA Feb 2014 Akoka, Malakal
199 Jalpan Joseph Deng Farage NA NA Not Specified
200 James Gatbel Jock Adult Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
201 James Luny Tingwar 28 Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
202 James Maliah Nhial Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
203 James Maliah Tang Youth 16th Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
204 James Muon Chan Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
205 James Ruai Gai Youth 41623 Jebel, Juba
206 Jeremiah Atem Athian 77 Jan 2014 Bor
207 Jiech Yiey Gong Elder 41624 Jebel, Juba
208 Jiech Yiey Guong Elder Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
209 Jikany Jock Gatluak Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
210 John Aban Koryom NA Feb 2014 Malakal
211 John Bol Kur 38 Mar 2014 Nyilwal, Upper Nile
212 John Chiok Dol Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
213 John Mead Manew Elderly Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
214 John melow Choul 37 years Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
215 John Omot Oweti 30 Mar 2014 Malakal
216 John Pech Mathoat Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
217 John Thalouka Tuaek Youth Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
218 Johnson Chyangjwok Ajiing NA Feb 2014 Malakal
219 Jok Makal Athian Makal 36-40 Jan 2014 Bor
220 Jona Abuduku Alfred NA Jan 2014 Lakes
221 Joseph Olwak Yor Yeljak 75 Feb 2014 Malakal
222 Joseph Otto NA Feb 2014 Malakal
223 Joseph Wador Kim Elder Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
224 Joseph Wani Tobia NA Oct 2014 Juba
225 Josephina Ayul Atik 12 Jan 2014 Malakal
226 Julius Taban Fredre Lodo 28 Dec 2013 Bor
227 Jwokpapiec Adeng Chol NA Feb 2014 Malakal
228 Jwokwanth Nyareth Ajalong 40 Feb 2014 Pakang, Malakal
229 Kai Kuol Gatluak Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
230 Karlo Oyom Jolong NA Feb 2014 Malakal
231 Keat Reang Tutrial 17 years Dec 2013 Juba
232 Keny Dabai 40 Dec 2013 Hai Machour, Bor
233 Kerbino Gatkuoth Wur 26 years Dec 2013 Juba
234 Kerbino Kuol Koang Youth Dec 2013 Juba
235 Kerbino Maker Tuor Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
236 Kerbino Mauar Tuor Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
237 Kerbino Mayah Chiok Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
238 Kerubino Rew Nyang Youth 16th Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
239 Kerubino Thou Bol youth Dec 2013 Gudele Juba
240 Khamise Tuol Malual NA Aug 2014 Wau-Rumbek road
241 Khor Ter Youth Dec 2013 Hai Salam, Bor
242 Kier Beliew Mayom Youth Dec 2013 Juba
243 Kiir Bayak Deng NA NA Duk County
244 Kimo Oyo Adyeng NA Feb 2014 Malakal
245 Koang Toang NA Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
246 Kong Malith Kong Child Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
247 Koung Deng Koung aged 93 21st Dec 2013 Bor
248 Krth. Aban Ayong Agokec NA Dec 2013 Malakal
249 Kuac Chol Wol Makuei 5yrs NA NA
250 Kuajien Chuol Kowal Jam 55 NA NA
251 Kuer Gak elderly Dec 2013 Hai Machour, Bor
252 Kuja Michael Bayu Appio 35 Jan 2014 Malakal
253 Kumar Pal Singh. aged 46 19th Dec 2014 Akobo,
254 Kuol Nyok Athiei 1940 Jan 2014 Payueny, Bor Suburb
255 Kwondit Gai 60 Jan 2014 Rubkona
256 Laat Manyang Karion NA Aug 2014 Wau-Rumbek road
257 Lam Chol Thichuong NA Dec 2013 Juba
258 Lam Nanjang Youth Dec 2013 Juba
259 Leek Til Kai 20 years Dec 2013 Juba
260 Locjiek Koang Kuol 24 years Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
261 Loi Biliu Diu NA Dec 2103 Gudele, Juba
262 Lony Manyang Beliew 28 Years Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
263 Lony Ret Col Cop 60 Jan 2014 Malakal
264 Lual Ariththok NA Jul 2014 Abyei
265 Lual Lueth NA NA Duk County
266 Lual Mabor Tutyang 36-40 NA NA
267 Luang Choul Youth Dec 2013 Juba
268 Luang Hothnyang Luang Single Dec 2013 Juba
269 Lueth Turic NA Aug 2014 Chumcok, Rumbek
270 Luka Riaka Laam Youth Dec 2013 Juba
271 Lul Kuajien NA Dec 2013 Bor
272 Mabior Col Deng Kacuor 38 Mar 2014 Malakal
273 Mabior Thichot Deng Dut NA NA Duk County
274 Mabyei Akol Deng Yom 47 NA Malakal
275 Machar Tang Dungdit Youth Dec 2013 Juba
276 Machek Ninrew Lieh NA March 14 Gou Payam, Leer
277 Machuot Luth Puoc NA Dec 2013 Gudele
278 Madau Gach Dut NA NA Duk County
279 Madit Malual Mawen Youth Dec 2013 Juba
280 Madit Manyuon Gatkek Youth 16th Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
281 Madith Ruai NA Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
282 Maduk Mathiang Beny NA NA Duk County
283 Magai Malual Riak NA NA Duk County
284 Mager Dit Mager 1945 Jan 2014 Payueny, Bor Suburb
285 Mahakama Puok Nyiec 31-35 NA NA
286 Mahow Mut Chuoy Gai 27 years Dec 2013 Juba
287 Majak Yor Majak Yor 61-65 Dec 2013 Bor
288 Majang Dahbai Nguen youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
289 Majock Ohar Gai Elder Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
290 Majok Deng Maketh 1940 Jan 2014 Payueny, Bor Suburb
291 Majok Lam Chawich NA NA Duk County
292 Maker Gatluak Duang 45 years Dec 2013 Juba
293 Maker Malou Manyiel NA NA Rumbek
294 Maker Manyuot Chouth Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
295 Maker Mathon NA Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
296 Maker Thay Jany NA Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
297 Makuach Diing Arok 41-45 Dec 2013 Akobo
298 Makur Maker Gum NA 24th Dec 2013 Rumbek Central
299 Maliet Alueth NA Sep 2014 Cuibet County
300 Maliet Majok Chenmoth NA Dec 2013 Lakes
301 Maliet Manyiel NA Jan 2014 Langbar C, Bor
302 Malow John Chol Youth 15th Dec 2013 Juba
303 Mam Nyaloth Amum Nyilak NA Feb 2014 Malakal
304 Manyabol Mach 40 NA Hai Machour, Bor
305 Manyang Kuon Youth Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
306 Manyang Tap NA Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
307 Manyok Ayuen Malou NA Not available Bor
308 Manyok Mading Majok 1917 1917 Payueny, Bor Town Suburb
309 Manyok Mading Majok 97 yrs January 2014 Bor
310 Manyok Madut Majok 78 Jan 2014 Bor
311 Manyor Mayom NA Sep 2014 Juba- Rumbek road
312 Manyoun Alier Adol Alier 24 23rd Dec 2013 Mathiang, Upper Nile
313 Manytuil Koang Tuip 46 years Dec 2013 Juba
314 Marac Akoon NA 1st Jan 2014 Yei-Juba Road
315 Mariak Jany Jok NA NA Duk County
316 Marino Obyeil Otong 16 Feb 2014 Malakal
317 Marko Adol Chanwang 70 Feb 2014 Pakang, Malakal
318 Maroup Diu Gai NA Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
319 Martin Mashod Choap Adult Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
320 Marub Dhieu 27 Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
321 Mary Anei NA Jan 2014 Langbar C neighborhood
322 Mary Joseph Okongo 36-40 NA NA
323 Mater Luong Youth Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
324 Mathew Makuot Kuon Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
325 Matik Gatjana Kong Youth 15th Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
326 Matik Kong 10 Jan 2014 Tongot, Unity
327 Matong Dut Chuol NA NA Duk County
328 Matthew Daboul Mathok Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
329 Matthew Makuot Kuon Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
330 Matur Apereer Chut NA Aug 2014 Wau-Rumbek road
331 Matur Cheng NA Sep 2014 Juba- Rumbek road
332 Mawich Gai Early 30s Apr 2014 NA
333 Mawich Lam Nyuon Elder Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
334 Mawicyiey Mawich Jieth 27 years Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
335 Mayan Thoch Mayan Akach 46-50 Jan 2014 Bor
336 Mayek Mabeny Reec NA Aug 2014 Rumbek
337 Mayen Gnet Jok Majok 1927 Jan 2014 Bor
338 Mayik Deng Duot 20 Feb 2014 Malakal
339 Mayot Ater Mawut NA Jun 2014 Lakes
340 Michael Batah Kutei Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
341 Michael Bwor Aban NA Feb 2014 Malakal
342 Michael Maluk Dhor Youth Dec 2013 Jebel
343 Michael Maluk Dhuo Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
344 Mohammed (Atam) Karial Ajak NA Feb 2014 Malakal
345 Mojwok (Nyacik) Lual Kur NA Feb 2014 Malakal
346 Mojwok Aba Kur 32 Mar 2014 Nyilwal, Upper Nile
347 Mojwok Akol Achwang NA Feb 2014 Malakal
348 Mojwok Gobek Yeljak 60 Feb 2014 Pakang, Malakal
349 Mojwok John Kangetin Adwok NA Jan 2014 Malakal
350 Mojwok Nyachik NA Jan 2014 Malakal
351 Monica Nakang Marco Loboi 31-35 Dec 2013 Juba
352 Mubarak Husayn NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
353 Muhammad Bashar Salih NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
354 Muhammad Ibrahim Dahawi NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
355 Muhammad Ishak Isa NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
356 Muhammed Abd-Al-Karim Adam Ishak NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
357 Mut Wech 38 Jan 2014 Leer, unity
358 Nayneni Akurwec 72 Mar 2014 Dinj, Malakal
359 Ngor Dak Ayoker 42 Mar 2014 Odong Tugo, Malakal
360 Nhial Chakuoth Malek NA March 14 Gou Payam, Leer
361 Nhial Makuach Gok 14 yrs old April 2014 Bentiu
362 Nhial Riak Gatluak Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
363 Nur al-Din Ibrahim Ishak NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
364 Nyabac Hakim Ajawang NA Feb 2014 Pakang, Malakal
365 Nyaban Ocurij Akic 35 Mar 2014 Owaci, Upper Nile
366 Nyabedjwok Athie NA February Malakal
367 Nyabeyang Kerbino Child 15th Dec 2013 Thong Piny, Juba
368 Nyabol Dyieng Oyor 73 Feb 2014 Makal Village, Malakal
369 Nyabol Nyikwae Ajang NA Feb 2014 Malakal
370 Nyabol Wal Koang Youth Dec 2013 Khor William, Juba
371 Nyabuol Agor Chol NA Not Specified Malakal
372 Nyabwony Jago Dak 68 Feb 2014 Makal Village, Malakal
373 Nyabyelo Temjak 62 Mar 2014 Malakal
374 Nyadak Amum Nyadeng 28 Feb 2014 Detang, Malakal
375 Nyadiing Nyiwall NA Feb 2014 Malakal
376 Nyagane Jabjien Dobuol Adult 16th Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
377 Nyageth Chan 16 Mar 2014 Tonga, Malakal
378 Nyagol Nyibong Ajang NA February Pamadh, Malakal
379 Nyajal Duol Nanjang Youth Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
380 Nyajang Nyidhok Odok 105 Feb 2014 Malakal
381 Nyajiben Odhok Acwanyo 20 Feb 2014 Pakang, Malakal
382 Nyajuoch Bol Ram Youth Dec 2013 Juba
383 Nyajwok Opej Awijak NA Feb 2014 Malakal
384 Nyajwok Otong Yanydit 78 Mar 2014 Owaci, Upper Nile
385 Nyakalthej Othom Odhong 9 Feb 2014 Malakal
386 Nyakang Jul Juoc Adult Dec 2013 Juba
387 Nyakimo Odol Deng 25 Feb 2014 Pekaan Nyilwak, Malakal
388 Nyakoang Kuol Choul Adult Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
389 Nyakoang Kuol Machar Adult Dec 2013 Juba
390 Nyakwiciwow Manyo Arop 7 Mar 2014 Owaci, Upper Nile
391 Nyaluak Nhial Kuol Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
392 Nyanawan Benu NA NA Duk County
393 Nyangu Nyibek Amuch Kak NA N/A Malakal
394 Nyanyai Malueth Akec 3 Jul 2014 Abyei
395 Nyanyang Akol Achwang NA Feb 2014 Malakal
396 Nyaruach Makon elderly Jan 2014 Rubkona
397 Nyathab Kual Anyang 45 Mar 2014 Tonga/Acoup, Malakal
398 Nyatijwok Ayul Atik 9 Jan 2014 Malakal
399 Nyatugo Nyago Arop 2 Mar 2014 Owaci, Upper Nile
400 Nyatyed Othom Odhong 12 Feb 2014 Malakal
401 Nyawal Bakuong Kuan Elder Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
402 Nyawang Jal Bol Youth Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
403 Nyawelo Ayijwok Yebkir 80 Feb 2014 Malakal
404 Nyawelo Ocor Nyijak 61 Mar 2014 Malakal
405 Nyayik Ajaj Tongker NA Feb 2014 Malakal
406 Nyayik Otwong Awejok NA Feb 2014 Malakal
407 Nyiding Akol Akurkwec 87 Mar 2014 Dor, Upper Nile
408 Nyikang Akol Ayie NA Feb 2014 Pakang, Malakal
409 Nyikang Hakim Mayik NA Feb 2014 Malakal
410 Nyith Gatchay youth 16th Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
411 Nyual Both Described as a “young woman” Dec 2013 Khor William, Juba
412 Nyuon Gatkhor Thak Youth Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
413 Obac Adam Ajak Gwang 18 Mar 2014 Malakal
414 Obac Ngor Oyat NA Feb 2014 Malakal
415 Obac Nyagurgur 35 Dec 2013 Makal, Malakal
416 Obac Olany Ayoker 47 Feb 2014 Pekaan Nyilwak, Malakal
417 Obudaya Otong Wanth Achiek 65 Feb 2014 Detang, Malakal
418 Obuti Awang Padiet NA Feb 2014 Malakal
419 Obuti Lual Deng Nyiker NA Feb 2014 Malakal
420 Obwonyo Okelthwony Kokdyeng NA Feb 2014 Lelo, Malakal
421 Obwonyo Onak NA Jan 2014 Malakal
422 Ocyie Nyawelo NA Feb 2014 Malakal
423 Odhigir Abon 60 Feb 2014 Detang, Malakal
424 Odhok Yor Amaelek 56 Feb 2014 Makal, Malakal
425 Odhong Luigi Adwok NA Feb 2014 Malakal
426 Odhong Nyikang (Ngonyngu) NA Jan 2014 Malakal
427 Odok Deng Yor NA NA Not Specified
428 Odol Chanwang NA Feb 2014 Pakang, Malakal
429 Ogeng Otor Deng 27 Mar 2014 Papuoc/Tong, Malakal
430 Ogyeth William Aywok NA Feb 2014 Malakal
431 Ojwok Riak Aleng 75 Mar 2014 Malakal
432 Okambo Abieth NA 22nd Aug 2014 Malakal
433 Okony Adol Awin 57 Feb 2014 Makal Village, Malakal
434 Okony Nyiker Deng 83 Mar 2014 Dinj, Malakal
435 Okoth Mayik Kokdyeng NA Feb 2014 Lelo, Malakal
436 Okwaci Owayi Nyijok NA Feb 2014 Detang, Malakal
437 Olami Adwok Aker 54 Feb 2014 Malakal
438 Olami Okony Kaleker 28 Mar 2014 Tonga/Debalo
439 Olieu Kayokir Adowin NA NA Not Specified
440 Olir Odor Adyeng NA 29th Feb 2014 Makal, Malakal
441 Olir Pouc Ador 42 Feb 2014 Makal, Malakal
442 Olwak Along Nyikwec NA Feb 2014 Malakal
443 Olwak Bijok 65 Mar 2014 Tonga/Atigo, Malakal
444 Oman Nyijak Okono Yeljak 67 Feb 2014 Pakang, Malakal
445 Omini Bol Okoc 36 Feb 2014 Malakal
446 Onak Adyeng Ayang NA Feb 2014 Malakal
447 Onak Adyeng Chol NA Feb 2014 Malakal
448 Onak Akolith NA Feb 2014 Malakal
449 Onak Nyirath Ajang NA NA Not Specified
450 Onok William Aywok 32 Feb 2014 Malakal
451 Onwar Jogo (Nyayar) 48 Mar 2014 Tonga, Malakal
452 Onyaw Adol Awin 57 Feb 2014 Makal, Malakal
453 Onyaw Amum Tipo 25 Feb 2014 Malakal
454 Opaki Deng Kual NA Feb 2014 Pakang, Malakal
455 Opedi Yor NA Jan 2014 Malakal
456 Opiti Joseph Deng Farage 35 Mar 2014 Malakal
457 Orac Mayik Abwol 35 Mar 2014 Malakal
458 Orak Yor Amolekeh NA Feb 2014 Malakal
459 Othopan Paul Owau NA Feb 2014 Malakal
460 Othow Ajok Budhok NA Feb 2014 Malakal
461 Othow Alak Adyeng 59 Feb 2014 Makal, Malakal
462 Othow Deng Nakdyar 80 Feb 2014 Malakal
463 Othow Nyinyang 59 Feb 2014 Detang, Malakal
464 Otien Deng Nyibong NA Feb 2014 Malakal
465 Otitgak Agor 39 Feb 2014 Makal, Malakal
466 Otor Aker Awanyang 55 Feb 2014 Malakal
467 Otor Opej Awijak NA Apr 2014 Opel
468 Otwongo Wanth Acien NA Feb 2014 Malakal
469 Oyath Nyawelo Kwathker 47 Mar 2014 Tonga/Yom, Malakal
470 Oyath Onak Ding 49 Mar 2014 Malakal
471 Oyor Dekwec Bukpi 68 Mar 2014 Dor/Tonga, Malakal
472 Padwad Mojwok Gobek 33 Feb 2014 Malakal
473 Pajelo Apur-rap NA NA Rumbek
474 Pal Long NA Aug 2014 Maban
475 Papiec Adyeng Ayang NA Feb 2014 Malakal
476 Patrice Obang Kulang Alsendero 31-35 Jan 2014 Malakal
477 Paulino Aban Deng 58 Mar 2014 Malakal
478 Paulino Palak Dak NA Dec 2013 Malakal
479 Paulo Yor Kual 70 Mar 2014 Tonga, Malakal
480 Peter Ajak Gwang 75 Mar 2014 Malakal
481 Peter Albino Ayik NA Feb 2014 Malakal
482 Peter Angelo Amum NA Feb 2014 Malakal
483 Peter Aywok Deng 67 Mar 2014 Malakal
484 Peter Chuol NA Jan 2014 Koch County, Bentiu
485 Peter Gatkuoth Beliu Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
486 Peter Gatkuoth Wadar Mogjang Youth Dec 2013 Gudele juba
487 Peter Gumbela Ayik NA Feb 2014 Malakal
488 Peter Jaldwong Chan NA Feb 2014 Malakal
489 Peter Kenya Thopthop Youth Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
490 Peter Malual Rueng Youth Dec 2013 No info
491 Peter Nhial Yaka Adult Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
492 Peter Ruon Deng Youth Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
493 Peter Yoanes Deng Ayuker NA Feb 2014 Malakal
494 Philip Joseph Deng Farage 42 Mar 2014 Malakal
495 Philip Mayak Kojuk 54 Dec 2013 Malakal
496 Philip Ronyo James Odol 43 Mar 2014 Malakal
497 Piel Mayen 65 Dec 2013 Hai Machour, Bor
498 Pouch Joseph Obuti 28 Mar 2014 Malakal
499 Pouk Koang Tutroah Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
500 Poul Machar Koryom Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
501 Puok Deng Diang 41-45 NA NA
502 Puol Machar Kuryom Youth Dec 2013 Jebel, Juba
503 Puot Gatkuoth Bol 21 years Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
504 Reath Kulang Juoy NA Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
505 Reath Thon Wakow NA 16th Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
506 Riak Awangmer Nyiker 80 Feb 2014 Pakang, Malakal
507 Riek Keah Gatmai Youth Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
508 Robert James Bol Kalmal NA Feb 2014 Detang, Malakal
509 Romano Obac Ajang Jok NA Feb 2014 Malakal
510 Ruach Ruot 32 NA NA
511 Ruach Turoah Nyawei Youth Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
512 Ruai Both NA Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
513 Ruot Gel 60 Jan 2014 Rubkona
514 Ruot Meat Riak NA Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
515 Sadam Wanth James NA Jan 2014 Malakal
516 Sahrif Muhammadain al-Tayib NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
517 Samuel John Amum NA Feb 2014 Malakal
518 Samuel John Onwar 4 Dec 2013 Malakal
519 Santino Oluak Yomon NA 17th Feb 2014 Malakal
520 Sebit Oqui Nimi Omeyi 41-45 Jan 2014 Bor
521 Sebit Oyay Adyeng NA Feb 2014 Makal Village, Malakal
522 Sebit Ronyo Amajok 39 Feb 2014 Malakal
523 Sharif Ajab al-Dur NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
524 Simon Manas Deng Crowa 45 Dec 2013 Malakal
525 Simon Nyang Lam 46 NA Bor
526 Simon Nyang Lam-age group 51-55 NA NA
527 Simon Ogworo Daniel Lual NA Feb 2014 Malakal
528 Stanley Munga Gitahi 31-35 Dec 2013 Bor
529 Stephen Kimo (Nyakwa) Kak NA Feb 2014 Malakal
530 Stephen Wani Kulang Alsendero 26-30 NA Malakal
531 Sudan Keak Bel Chat 38 Dec 2013 Jonglei State
532 Sudan Kek NA Dec 2013 Bor
533 Sudan Tot NA Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
534 Sulayman Idris Asil NA Apr 2014 Bentiu
535 Tai Dor Long NA Aug 2014 Maban
536 Tai Magok NA Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
537 Tap Kai Phan 28 Yrs Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
538 Tekjwok Ageng Bil NA Feb 2014 Gudele, Juba
539 Ter Gatjang Nhial NA Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
540 Thau Maar Xok NA NA Duk County
541 Thijien Majong Lok Youth Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
542 Thijien Najang Lok Youth 16th Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
543 Tholaka Tuak Nhial Elderly Dec 2013 Munuki, Juba
544 Tholunj Mach NA Jan 2014 Malou neighborhood
545 Thomas Lul Kuadiien 47 24th Dec 2014 Malakal
546 Thomas Oban Nyikwae 30 Feb 2014 Malakal
547 Thomas Olinj Padiet NA Feb 2014 Malakal
548 Thon Beny NA NA Duk County
549 Tiel Gatkuoth Yei Elder Dec 2013 Juba
550 Tipo John Onwar 9 Dec 2013 Malakal
551 Tot Kuol Gatluak 30 years Dec 2013 Juba
552 Tuom Gai Mut 27yrs NA NA
553 Tupac Wanh Jwanyding 72 Mar 2014 Malakal
554 Tut Banypiny NA Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
555 Weigok Jany NA Jan 2014 Rubkona
556 Wer Majak 41-45 NA NA
557 Wichar Riak Chuol NA NA Duk County
558 William Gai Beng Jiech 45 years Dec 2013 Juba
559 William Koang Dit Pech Youth Dec 2013 Manga Tein, Juba
560 Wilson Anhim Jok NA Jun 2014 Rumbek East
561 Wilson Ayul Atik 14 Jan 2014 Malakal
562 Wuor Riak Chol NA NA Duk County
563 Wuor Wang Machar NA Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
564 Wur Tut Koch 29 years Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
565 Yai Wapouch Gak Youth Dec 2013 Gudele, Juba
566 Yanj Kir Nyang NA Feb 2014 Malakal
567 Yapout Daniel Mudo 33 Mar 2014 Malakal
568 Yien Yatt NA Aug 2014 NA
569 Yol Mourdit Dhel NA 13th Sept 2014 Pachong, Rumbek Central
570 Yowmo Daniel Othowl NA Feb 2014 Malakal
571 Yuanes Akoc Chol Ador NA Feb 2014 Malakal
572 Zecki Ali Syrian NA Sep 2014 Juba- Rumbek road

we will be told

Posted: December 8, 2014 by PaanLuel Wël in Junub Sudan

Originally posted on Gukira:

We will be told that a legal process was followed, that the rules of evidence were followed, that protocols about witnesses were followed. We will be told that the most convincing arguments won, that the most eloquent lawyers won, that the most compelling case won. We will be told that the deaths were accidental, the violence spontaneous, the stolen election a coincidence. We will be told that justice has been served.

We will not be told the names of those who died.
We will not be told the names of the disappeared witnesses
We will not be told the names of the silenced witnesses.

We will not hear the screams of those chopped to pieces with machetes, the stories of those raped and impregnated, the travails of the displaced and the dispossessed. We will not hear the sounds of the restless dead, the questions from too-young ghosts who still ask…

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General Cirilo met president, Dismisses defection rumors

General Thomas Cirilo yesterday strongly dismissed the defection rumors that has been circulating on the social media for the last two days

Gen. Cirilo met president Salva Kiir Mayardit on Monday in his office and assured him of his full commitment to the national duties and dismissed the defection rumors that had rocked the country over the weekend

Speaking after meeting president Salva Kiir Mayardit yesterday in his office, Gen. Cirilo said he was on training mission to Swaziland

“I was on a mission course in Swaziland, I finished the course and I came back home on Saturday,” said Cirilo

“Of course there was this rumor which came out through Sudan tribune that I was missing for two days which is not correct, I came home on Saturday and yesterday I was in the country, I did not defected”, he point out

“I just want to assure the public that I was not missing and that it was just a pure lie, am here and have resume my duties,” he added

According to Gen. Cirilo, his meeting with the president was to discussed the issues of defense, SPLA and the course he was undergoing in Swaziland

“We are committed to this country, we fought for this country and its people and we will continue to be commit to the people so that they realize their aspiration of the freedom and justice society and nothing will stop that,” he said

speaking in the press briefing, the presidential Press Secretary Ateny Wek Ateny dismissed the rumors

“We are just calling you to inform you that as South Sudanese yesterday and the day before yesterday embark on the progress of looking at what news are for South Sudan especially those who are looking for news, which are for peace, they were shocked to find that there were wild rumors that had been create that General Thomas Cirilo Sawka the deputy chief of Staff for training has defected to the SPLM/A in opposition because they said according to the social media, he was not contactable”, said Ateny

“We want to inform the general public because we know the depression that has led into all these rumormongering, we want to inform our citizen that whatever that is created on the websites and the social media are not moving the government, the government is intact “, he said

Ateny said Gen. Cirilo was on a mission to Swaziland where he attended some training and he was not reachable during the process of traveling from Swaziland because the phone was off while in the plane

“While he was traveling and his phone was not reachable during the traveling, the rumor was created”, said Ateny

“Now we wanted to clear the cloned that Gen. Cirilo is back to his deputy as the deputy Chief of general Staff for training, he had just the president Gen. Salva Kiir Maryardit and he had assured him that he is here and the media was circulating rumors”, he point out

he said General Thomas Cirilo is a calebal of an army general that cannot be expected to join a causeless war

he said Gen. Cirilo joint the SPLM/A in the 90s and fought a cause war and he has no reason to join the ongoing senseless war in the country

Cont De Monk's photo.
Cont De Monk's photo.

Gurtong.org: Prime Minister’s Position Being Contested In Pangak

By “Nation Mirrow”

Taban Deng Gai, the rebels’ lead negotiator is eying the position of the Prime Minister to be created by Peace Agreement between the government of South Sudan the SPLM/A IO, led by Riek Machar Teny. A Source in Gambella told The Nation Mirror that Taban told Riek Machar that the Position of Prime Minister should be occupied by a person other than him (Riek Machar). “Taban has come up with new proposal to rebels’ generals in Pagak, which seems to detach Riek Machar from the position of Prime Minister. He is telling the generals that if a peace deal is to be accepted, Riek Machar should not be the Prime Minister”, he said.Adding, “It is fair for Riek Machar to just wait for general elections”, source revealed.

Taban Deng Gai reportedly argued that the government of South Sudan refused to let go of the position of Vice President of the Republic, which is mostly likely to be occupied by James Wani Igga who, according to source, was the deputy to Riek Machar in the Party when he was the Deputy Chairperson of SPLM, and a Vice President of the Republic.”He justifies his argument by saying since the Position of the Prime Minister is lower than the position of the Vice President it is not graceful for Riek to be under James Wani Igga who was his junior in the Party”, anonymous source revealed. Taban Deng has maintained contact with the rebels’ generals from the very onset of the raw over peace deal signed by Riek and President Kiir.

A source close to generals said that Taban is agitating to raise a motion in the meeting to resolve that Riek should not be the Prime Minister. “Taban is agitating Rebels’ commanders to raise a motion urging Riek not to take part in the Government of National Unity when the meeting commences”, he said. Adding, “Taban knows that he is popular among the rebel commanders and that gives him automatic ascension to premier post”, he said. Taban has been using Nuer being the most affected by the current violence conflict in South Sudan as a card to dislodge Alfred Lado Gore who, according to Taban Deng does not command support from Equatoria region. It has come to surface lately that both Taban Deng and Alfred Lado Gore are courting the position of Prime Minister created by peace accord yet to be concluded in Addis Ababa. 

Taban Deng Gai proposed the issue of Riek not taking part in the Government of National Unity, but Riek and Lado Gore reportedly opposed the idea. 

A member of the rebels’ leadership accuses Taban Deng of being behind the raw over peace deal arguing that Taban wants to be the Prime Minister. “Taban Deng knows that when Riek is convinced not to take part he would be the preferable to Rebel Generals”, he observed.

The political wing of the rebel movement is seemingly getting divided with Taban and most rebels’ generals on one side and Riek, Dhieu Mathok, and Alfred Lado Gore and some commanders on the other side.

Alfred Lado Gore warned Taban to stop imagining being the Prime Minister if Riek Machar chooses to abstain from the Government of National Unity. A source close to rebels said Gore warned Taban Deng against playing divisive game against the movement. “Taban should not play such dangerous game. If at all Riek Machar is not taking part in this Government of National Unity his Deputy should assume the position designated for Chairman”, Gore reportedly warned. Conversely Taban has mobilized the commanders to argue in favor of him. Stressing that the war is fought by Nuer and not Gore who does not have soldiers following him.

A reliable source revealed to The Nation Mirror that the plane carrying Taban Deng Gai and Amb. Ezekiel Gatkuoth landed yesterday at 4:30pm Gambella Airport. Taban is said to have headed towards Pagak yesterday where rebels commanders were waiting for him. Riek, Lado Gore, and Dhieu Mathok will be part of Riek entourage, which will arrive in Gambella tomorrow. 


By Gordon Buay
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The rebels must accept peace offered by President Kiir. Failure to do so would force us to defend civilians and peace by using Antonov bombers.

The IGAD power-sharing protocol must be accepted by the rebels. If the rebels reject it, the world will stand behind the government of South Sudan to eradicate the mosquito called Riek Machar.

I want to eat buffalo meat in Pagak in April. If the rebels refuse to accept peace, I will go there by force.

When I said in April this year that I would eat fish in Nasir town, a lot of Nuer rebels were laughing at me. Some even said I was crazy. But on May, 4th, my forces ate fish in Nasir as I said in April.

I want to go to Pagak with Antonov to eat buffalo meat. I always want to eat buffalo meat and the rebels must quickly accept peace so that I land in Pagak to eat the meat.

If the rebels don’t want peace, they must vacate Pagak for me without a fight. But if they don’t, then, they will smell the drums of Antonov bombs. I want to eat meat in Pagak and I don’t want any terrorist to waste my time.